Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Short, light shotguns like this hurt like hell on the recoil when youre shooting 00 buck 2.75 loads. As part of the multinational firearms conglomerate, Beretta Holding S.p.A, Stoeger Industries gets overshadowed by the more established gunmakers Beretta, Benelli, and Franchi. Im short so I always need to adjust LOP anyway. And yes, I do mean guns that I own. I'll pay what I have to but I don't need a hand built engraved master piece either. . Although I really liked how the, Model: Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under. And then I made my fatal mistake with the Coach Gun. Finish: Matte Matte nickel I found instructions on what to do and how to do it on the internet, and it is a pleasant evenings diversion. Overall Length: 36,5 inches Thats life. I also have a Zhongzhou Machine Works China coach gun that looks like treadhead1952s. Side by side "Old West" style. When I got it home, I peeled the Coach Gun out the plastic bags surrounding its three pieces. Polecat Polecat in a Poke Joined Apr 8, 2013 Messages 2,761 Likes Everyone told me that the first thing I needed to do to the gun was shorten the impeller so that it would not engage the safety when I broke it open. After asking around, the biggest complaint I heard about the Coach was its out-of-box issues handling cold weather. The photo on the left is my chamber mouth as it currently exists and the photo on the right is the chamber mouth of a champion shooters coach gun. Kept putting the extractor in and out until I had no interference. by JerryB Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:09 pm, Post With birdshot and buckshot, the groups were also different sizes. When the forward grip is fitted onto the barrels they actually protrude into the rear portion of the grip. I think she needs one of her own. I pared a lot of wood off the fore-end, turning it into a modified splinter type. What looks like polymer is just wood and flat black paint. Also a potent home security gun, the Coach Gun is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. The Supreme's . Heck, go somewhere in the west where you might be able to sweet-talk a collector into showing you some genuine Wells Fargo coach guns by Parker Bros. Look at the workmanship from over 100 years ago. Not a single issue straight from the box. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. I had trouble with it firing both barrels simultaneously..sometimes. Thats 90% of the issue. Certainly there is a valid place for handguns. The shotgun is then broken open to reload. Unfortunately, this is one of the few models which doesnt feature, After asking around, the biggest complaint I heard about the Coach was its out-of-box issues handling cold weather. If take the stock off a Parker or Fox shotgun from 100 years ago, and you look at the lockwork, they look a helluva lot better than what we see in your photo above. In addition to boasting an impressive spec sheet from one of the most reliable firearm makers, Coach Guns are known for their incredibly fast performance. Whatever it was there is no way I'd ever pay the $400 they were asking for it. One is a workhorse and the other is a deep refined "wall. With the coach gun, I wasnt so much shooting doubles as I was wiling them to turn into little clouds of clay dust. Average weight: 6.5 to 7 lbs. These hinged bits are part of the hammer cocking mechanism. The Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme has removable chokes and come with a set of both so for the extra 50.00 it seams like its worth it, plus it has a recoil pad installed too. It is called a coach gun because it was widely used by stage coach guards in the Wild West days. When assembled it was 36.5 inches long overall. First, you gotta check out their, Since Stoegers collection of Coach Guns features such high quality shotguns for affordable prices, its no easy task to compete with them. Many people might wonder why these guns have withstood the test of time as trusted weapons, but the answer is simple. Ever notice the two little hinged things sticking out of the forward end of the receiver that sort of just flop around after the barrels are removed. great review. Chrome lined barrels choked SKEET & SKEET. After using sandpaper, I put toothpaste on the surfaces, reassembled the shotgun, and opened and closed it several dozen times. I have taken it to a local gunsmith three times, sent it back to Stoeger, who refuses to look at it because the safety was reversed. I know, I know: most side-by-sides break down the same way. It still draws curious onlookers, when I slip it out of its travel case.. There are guns that do certain things better. This is a job best left to a for-real shotgun gunsmith, but it can make a significant improvement in the recoil experience on the gun. by Blaine Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:40 pm, Post However, hard to find. Gonna part company with my old Winchester 101s & L.C. As the spring is shortened, the impeller and spring become a lot easier to take out and put back in. "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. I have allways objected for that very reason, which is why I have a hammer double. The Cimarron Arms 1878 is a thing of beauty. I hear the cowboy action guys polish up the chambers so that fired shells fall out simply with a quick jerk backwards. Dad and I both love that rig. Seems very solid. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. I soon realized my heirloom shotgun wasnt competition-friendly for several reasons, including shell ejection issues and a barrel that was too long. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. Although the black-finished walnut stock and polished nickel receiver model is equally sexy and intimidating, I steered clear from its double trigger. Now that almost EVERY round is a buck a shot , I could deal with a reasonable quality SXS . Other specs are more or less the same. Nice review. I had to crack-open the box to verify that it did, indeed, contain a gun. With the coach gun, all I have to do is choose which of the two triggers is connected to the correctly charged barrel. This time they "fixed" it. Ive NEVER had trouble with the pump, and Ive been using it for close to 40 years. They are not cheap locally, so I bought a shotshell reloader and started loading my own light loads. A grinder made all the difference in the world in doing this. About us; Sell Your Gun parts; Buy Gift Cards; Order Status; Cart; Account; . David, Provided you have the Supreme Model, you can change the Chokes with NB I said shotgun gunsmith, because lots of rifle/pistol gunsmiths wont know how to properly measure the barrel wall thickness, nor will they have the proper reamers for lengthening the forcing cones (theyre spendy little buggers like $100 + shipping). Thats why youre sitting there with abrasives, polishing down rough machine finishes on a brand new gun. That next week, I watched several YouTube video on how to slick up a coach gun. What make of shotgun shells are you using? That being said, I did find one product which gives Stoeger a run for their money: Mossbergs Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under shotgun. Simply remove the butt stock and remove the small pin the is connected to the trigger block. Only difference is barrel orientation. Caliber: .12 gauge Funneling chamber mouths The final step was to make take a spherical grinding stone to the chamber mouth. Once this is understood, the rest is simple for our predicament. The Maryland-based weapons manufacturer specializes in traditionally-build shotguns with up-to-date aesthetics and operation. Thank you. I traded an old flintlock kit gun to my ex brother inlaw for his never fired coachman nickleplate. AFTER THE VIDEO, there is a seperate SET OF INSTRUCTIONS I do it with a Fox or Parker or an O/U. Thanks. 2. mY 1897 IS ACTUALLY A US ARMY TRENCH GUN FAST SHOOTING AND ACCURATE. toddcarnes Participant Milan IL Posts: 804 September 6, 2007 at 3:25 am #606030 Its always a good day when I learn new stuff. Close. The Single-Trigger Coach Gun. Damn facts! due to their break open simplicity and manual of arms they likewise would be ideal I also shortened the trigger sear-blades, and pinned the triggers in proper position, and reshaped the pregnant-looking trigger guard. Action: boxlock side-by-side by Ji in Hawaii Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:49 pm, Post Cantankerousbastard that I am, I remained determined to dislike it. But the Silverado is a lightweight, compact, do-it-all shotgun that does one thing as well as any firearm on the planet: make me smile. It took a little while to adjust to the Silverado, looking down a pair of barrels with a rib in between. The photo below shows the lock impellor after I finished my grinding chores. Sheila dont know or care about choke or an English stock , external hammers vs. internal hammers but I do . He has made good use of it in his War Of The Birds. Again, there are purpose-built guns that are better for specific types of game animals. by Buck Elliott Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:06 pm, Post The easiest way to address this problem is by simply giving it a quick CLP treatment and that should do the trick. Starting with the most famous and expensive, Id like to give my readers four great options to choose from. There are over 100 parts in an 1897 and something is always breaking. I really like Ithica, LeFever etc. Great article! Click to expand. Notifications . I asked around, and broken barrel lugs are a very common problem, along with split stocks. The real key is not to be too aggressive and know the harness of the various parts. Jun 18, 2017. This hardwood shotgun is built with A-Grade American walnut and blued metal for superior durability and a classic look. Tactical shooters love the EOTech because of its super compact build, wide field of view, and because its trusted by many militaries around the globe For $500, youre getting one of the best sights in the world. Once I figured out the pattern, I could easily put a slug from the right barrel into the same group made by the left barrel by merely sighting down the top of the right barrel, instead of using the brass bead in the middle. Ive heard that repair parts can be hard to come by, but I havent had to deal with that aspect of it yet. When I see the bird fly, my elbows drop under the gun, my left eye closes, and I try to pressssssss the trigger slowly and smoothly, which is all completely, totally and utterly wrong with a shotgun. I have a shotgun that only puts a small indentation, dent, in the shells in the right cylinder. Barrels are well regulated. The inner workings are less than primitive. Kudos to you for turning an ugly duckling into a beautiful Swan. Interestingly enough, nearly everyone who shared this issue all had great experiences with Stoegers customer service getting their gun fixed. Get the stainless firing pins (and the tool) from longhunter. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. Two different chokes is a standard setup for twin-barreled shotguns. By If I ever do get one, Ill be sure to give it this treatment. Left barrel Modified choke They are pretty rough but they smooth up well. I think it is an excellent value for the money. The Stoeger Coach Gun was the top choice for enthusiasts looking for a side-by-side shotgun in 2019, according to volume of purchases made through the services of Gunbroker.com. I just have the plain-jane modelstock is standard, not English, and it isnt finished quite as nicely. As such, they have a remarkable collection of, Coach guns are ingrained in American culture, and Im pumped to see them make a comeback. In Stock. The biggest was its stiffness when trying to break it open. I have one of the Pedersoli La Bohemienne shotguns a beautiful gun.Pedersoli sells the Wyatt Earp short barrel coach gun version which is basically the same gun. Right barrel IC choke. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. The box was that light. Now with my trusty 870 pump, with its very rifle-like stock and sights, Im lucky if I complete one double out of three or four. I was fearful of barrel misalignment when I got a Baikal coach gun but the darned thing hits on the bead with both barrels and when we got another one for my wife, we found its the same. Gun Review: Stoeger Silverado Coach Gun (12 Gauge). I have never seen a side by side shoot skeet. Firearm Specifications,Manufacturer: Stoeger Model: Coach Gun Supreme Gauge: 12 Gauge Barrel Length: 20" Overall Length: 36. The only problem is the splinter fore-end means I need to wear a glove to keep from burning my left hand. for a group of college age young women (aged 18-21) living off campus, or single women in general. The only problem ive had with it was that the screws in the forarm came loose. Let us know what you think in the comments section! When the Silverado arrived at my local gun dealer, I swear I thought Stoeger had sent me some promotional T-shirts instead of a shotgun. Plus I cant forget about the game changing fiber-optic sights. The steps I took included: 1. Fun stuff. 00. . Flawless. by Griff Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:30 am, Post At the same time I was shortening the rod, I was also cutting small amounts off of the spring. An attractive trigger guard gives the Coach Gun and Coach Gun Supreme a more refined appearance, with smooth curves that complement the triggers. Fit and finish are nice and consistent with, or a little better than, what I expected for the price point. They weren't short barreled coach guns both were 28" barreled bird guns which were a tad heavy but built like a T-34 tank. Compared to the light field loads, the recoil produced by Remington Express Magnum buckshot was super brutto. While it may seem foolish to some, one of my favorite aspects of the TTN is its ability to be transformed from a bulbous 'clunker', into a very handsome, shootable gun.. Shaping the stock, within the parameters of the available wood was a pleasant challenge, as was the minor action wotk I performed on it.. To take advantage of the top rail, youll most likely want to attach some type of reflex or holographic sight. If yes do you have the original lever spring? On paper, the Stoeger M3000 seems like the perfect affordable semi-auto duck hunting shotgun. You can View a Copy of the Owners Manual here > http://youtu.be/X2UwWJ3x6ew Posted: 6/8/2013 7:18:57 AM EST [#5] Breaking the lug is an all too frequent problem with Stoegers. Has anyone else had problems with re-assembly? I gave my Stoeger Coach Gun a workout last week shooting full-house, nine pellet 00 buck. It is a nice fast handling little shotgun but not what I would call a skeet gun. USSG has some decent coach style SxS shotties. And if I cant figure it out, one of the other cowboy shooters will be able to tell me what to do. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. I called TTAGs main man at Benelli, Stoegers parent company. ALSO, on many shotguns, s/s, o/u and some others the safety is RIGHT WHERE IT BELONGS under the thumb. Light and handy; easy to swing on clay birds or move around corners. Were moving out to the sticks , so Im claiming that I want this for my wife which is kinda true . Pretty much every shooter at the match that day pulled me aside and privately told me that I needed to fix that factory safety.. FedEx says this requires a new shipping label to add insurance, and the sender then has to pay the shipping as well. I tried two types of slugs, Federal Reduced Recoil and Remington Sluggers, with similar pattern results. It has chokes that just obliterate clays for me, even at extended distances. It's wood isn't as pretty or fitted as good as the Stoeger but it has been very reliable. What types of problems would not be covered under warranty? Nowadays, Stoeger manufactures their Coach guns in .410, 12, and 20 gauges, in a variety of finishes, all with 20 barrels. But the configuration of the Coach Gun just wouldnt let me revert to my old, bad shotgun habits. You have entered an incorrect email address! Clean the firing pin and screw well and oil lightly. The Stoeger Coach Gun passed one of the most stringent tests I apply to guns: the giggle test. When I backed up to 40 yards, the left barrel remained in the middle, with the right barrel putting slugs about 10 inches to the high right. It was just another day of education in my journey to improve my cowboy shooting skills as I had to overcome several challenges associated with shooting a new gun. It would be a bad place to find yourself at the other end of those two barrels.Love My Coachman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! P.S. The factory Stoeger resets the safety every time the gun breaks open. The prepaid label is useless if you want it insured. Interestingly enough, nearly everyone who shared this issue all had great experiences with Stoegers customer service getting their gun fixed. Sometimes I use a little fixture to make sure everything is square during the rough sanding. Just purchased a new Stoeger side by side 12 gauge coach gun. The Supreme's butt stock and beaver tail fore-end . The hammers are close for easier one-handed cocking. I like your review. The TTN is a 12-gauge gun, built on a "10-gauge" frame.. Have compared mine to a friend's old, original 10-gauge, 1878 Colt. Best of luck to you! A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. But, when I do, Ill be sure to have a range of shotshells handy and a backup gun just in case. Quantity: Buy now. Regards, The Coach Guns stock fits me very well, and because it feels so different from a rifle, its easier for me to not shoot it like a rifle. Getting a good finished appearance is the other 90% of the issue. What's on the current list? When I took another look at the pictures of my targets, the differential between the left and right barrels really wasnt that much. Eligible for FREE shipping * Trigger Lock Lever, New . I got one off a fellow forumite in 20 gauge, with hammers, and 26" barrels, Mod and Imp Cyl, IIRC. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. I remember shooting it while standing on a frozen pond and going backwards. Like the spring, a Dremel tool is recommended for this process. For those who want to criticize my use of a new gun in a competition, at that point in time, I was measuring my shooting times with a calendar instead of a stopwatch. I've been hearing a lot of mixed reviews on the Stogers so I'm thinking something else might be in order. Stevens S1200 Shotgun Review: Terminated, Outdated, & Celebrated. LEARN MORE. by Ji in Hawaii Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:17 pm, Post Overall length: 36.5". Single trigger SxSs take a lot of tuning to get just right. Thanks! The best part is that this Bushnell can be yours for just $100! This destroyed the gun meaning it had to be replaced under warranty. Although nothing to rave about, the Sightmark Ultra Shot reflex sight will get the job done. The Stoeger Coach Gun is a lot of fun in a lightweight, easy-to-handle package. And its hard to find a gun more versatile than a 12 gauge. But for the novice or beginner the double-barrel stagecoach Stoeger Model M3500 12 Gauge Shotgun with Realtree Max-5 Stock and 28-Inch Barrel. At first I thought the recoil was maybe engaging the safety but after a few misfires I realized it's light primer strikes, and I think it might be just the right barrel. One other thing to look at is head space. Theres a great deal to learn about Stoegers premier side by side but before we get the ball rolling on the Gunivore review of Stoeger Industries Coach Gun, check out our rundown on the past, present, and future of the entire up-and-coming Stoeger Company. 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