eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), I think this is one thing that remains somewhat undecided but considering Baekhyuns track record, I wouldnt put it past him tbh. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. Daily persecution? She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? MAMAMOO () is a four-member girl group currently under RBW. It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. As I am not muslim (and Im not sure if you are or not) I feel as though its not really up for me to say whether or not its offensive ora reach. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . It is absurd. Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. This has been a hard decision to make, one Ive been debating with for a good while now, but Ive decided I think its best for me to take a break from this blog. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. I really dislike fat girls. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. However it did look dumb not going to lie not a good look and hopes she does not it again. . 1. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. But that explanation was also not bought by many. Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. The sun will always shine for us. the Eunhyuk WGM thing being scripted). Yet she's okay with that. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. Your question/message will be answered rudely or even deleted if you have not read the FAQ first. You need to Register or Login to view the content. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. pic.twitter.com/d4GXcv4AIt, As more fans attempted to clear the hashtag and ask for others to be kind and consider the mental health of idols like Hwasa, some couldn't help but laugh at the questions being asked. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . Anyway, I hope this didnt come across as rude or anything, but I really need to go to sleep now. Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. Apink made an exciting appearance on the recent July 1 episode of SNL Korea, but one of the show's skits featuring member Bomi has caused a wave of backlash among fans and viewers. Threads: 200. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. So trend they did. Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. That crosses every sort of line. Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. eventAction: 'click_image_ads' } When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. },false) if(document.querySelector("#adunit")){ My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? Maybe ive just checked really bad websites. Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. },false) i am so so tired. We hope that you will help to educate us on these and other issues so that we can become better people and better artists.. Im not sure anyone will read this post, Im not sure if any of the people upset by my actions will read it (because I doubt they are following this blog) but I felt like I owed everybody an apology. omg lol at everything written under heechul. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. It also means I respond to criticism poorly. They wont know the nuances of why what they did is offensive to us and thats why we tell them. Mamamoo ( Korean : , stylized in all caps) [2] is a South Korean girl group formed by RBW (formerly WA Entertainment) in 2014, composed of four members: Solar, Moon Byul, Whee In and Hwa Sa. yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). Ive said it before and Ill say it again, that post wasnt made with the intent of hurting Super Junior or their fans, nor was it made for the purpose of bashing Super Junior. Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. You need to Register or Login to view the content. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. Recently the show aired a special live on the YouTube channel of I Live Alone. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. eventAction: 'render' kpop problematic carrd! window.googletag.cmd.push(function() { I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. You can decide to remove them from your lives, not support them, not give them any attention, money or time, but death threats? I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. Feels bad yo. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? hitType: 'event', ga('ads.send', { Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). hitType: 'event', We all make mistakes and Mamamoo is no exception. In this video, they wore blackface. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. ourbridgeisforever:. Villain. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. Yes. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. }); New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. hitType: 'event', I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. We have, arguably, a smaller fan base in a way - at least internationally - so its a little easier to see those hate thorns in-between the roses. So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. okay so somebody sent me a link to the video (thank you btw!) Threads: 0. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. I like most of the members included in that post, please dont try to make it out like I dont, because it perpetuates the idea that fans cant criticise the things they love. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. JavaScript is disabled. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. And this links back to other instances of Hwasa being called out for cultural appropriation, the most recent being her wearing what appeared to be a traditional Nigerian outfit on the MBC show 'I Live Alone'. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. Press J to jump to the feed. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. They are not exactly multicultural societies vs. north america. In the boy groups section, there are fans defending them for everything and even saying things like, "Come back when ___(male idols)__ abuse people, then we'll talk about them being 'problematic'." Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol }); They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. pg.acq.push(function() { Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. hitType: 'event', Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? Please think before you write these messages. Hope that all made sense! 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